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Panache Coffee was a busy Monday morning - besides the regular gatherings of the movers and shakers in Framingham and friends chatting, Bose was shooting a video for a new product.
Panache Coffee was a busy Monday morning - besides the regular meetings of the movers and shakers in Framingham and small intimate gatherings of friends, Bose was shooting a video for a new product.
1:04 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
That's the problem in Framingham, lots of people doing a lot of "shaking" but not a lot of making.....Lots of hot hot air.......Need to bring the "shakers" all back to "Terra Firma"
1:23 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Joe - quick and easy friendly challenge for you - can you name three good things about Framingham?
1:45 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Kim....I'll respond too....I like the parks, Northside open space, lots of good people that want to see things get better.
More.....Centrally located near everything. Can't forget Patch....before Patch we really had no fluid news source and some good creative writers. Now we can have open discussions on issues that would of never been heard.
The Frambors email list is a closed list open to a selected few. Not a good thing.
I think the most important thing for a town to have is a place for open discussion, when discussion is prevented then the town as a whole loses out, and this is why Framingham is where it is today.
We lost control of what issues are the most important to the people and the town is now a reflection of what happens when that happens.
All in all, we strive to make things better but to make things better we have to take out the trash.....that is easier said than done. It seems like the "trash" in the so many ways it's here has accumulated for a while. Some people notice some don't.
Hopefully more will notice and try to do something about it.
2:05 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Nice! Thanks, Jim! How about three good things about the South Side (besides me, of course LOL).
2:30 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Framingham has some good history. Our town seal really tells a story.
We have some nice walking parks, Cushing grounds, lots of history and memories of what formerly was there. I have the last video taken INSIDE of that place before it was bulldozed.
I like the fact that Framingham ACCESS TV allows us to produce a cable show that gives us freedom of speech. It's actually "limited" freedom of speech because the stuff we talk about is usually played at night because the powers to be who really run this town and nation control the media and what is written in the newspapers. Just think of the Movie The Truman show. Everything is great on the set until the light falls from the sky and you start really seeing WHO controls the movie.....when that happens then all the "hate", "Racist" accusations start to fly....PROVING who really controls the media.
There really IS a man behind the curtain....watch my cable show.
I think highly of the Callahan Center it helps the elderly in many ways.
I like the main branch library, even though I don't use it much, I love Library's.
I actually have a Boston Public Library card.
I enjoy being in Town Meeting.
I like the PATCH because Susan is a very dedicated person trying to make available what happens in the town to get people involved. She's doing a superb job.
2:36 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
I had no idea about the seal - that was a very cool bit of history. Thanks to you both.
2:37 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Kim...The SouthSide is a tough one....This is where most of the problems are.
Washakum beach is nice...but I wouldn't swim there. There are actually not too many places to hang out on the Southside that I would consider safe. The Bethany property is beautiful but not for the general public.
Of course there is The Cushing property which is one of the gems of the town.
Would love to see that developed with a mini water park for the kids, and ice cream breakfast stop for all the parents and walkers.
That whole area is where things should be focused to be a destination point and NOT downtown. Too many issues there. It's easier to develope open land than trying to fix buildings and deal with parking downtown.
So If we take hold of developing the Farm Pond, Cushing area this town will rebound.
It will take at least ten years but it will be worth it.
2:52 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Wow, those are good ideas . . . love that about the Cushing property! I wonder what it would take to develop that. I used to take my mom walking the grounds there when she lived here, and it would have been nice to have an ice cream/breakfast place. My husband has always wanted to open a small place to serve good, old-fashioned, traditional American fare.
I agree - Waushakum pond is nice - there's some good fishing there (strictly catch and release, mind you!). Maybe we start with the Cushing/Farm Pond area - the kids are always over there playing hockey and baseball anyway, right? And again, I have gone completely off topic. But thanks for that - it was refreshing.
3:00 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
@Kim - great question!
There are lost of great things on the South Side -- Cushing Memorial Park, Learned Pond in the summer is great to swim (IMO beter than Waushakum), Keefe Tech has open swim at their pool, Loring Arena has skate times for the public, Amazing Things Arts Center, Danforth Museum, the main Framingham library has fabulous programming ranging from lectures, movies, family events and music and Framingham State University offers a lot of programming to residents in town, including best-selling authors and the arts.
3:58 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Don't forget about Framingham Baking Company and Waverly Market........ Monnick Supply is one of the best hardware stores around and there's always the Chicken Bone!
4:33 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Brenda: those are businesses we frequent often in my house ... and I'll add La Cantina.
3:42 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
People have to be near these resources to enjoy them, that's why some living quarters would be good too. I'm talking Apts for those that are working class people, maybe on the Farm Pond side.
You have to have people who have money to enjoy the things around them.
Kim...opening up a breakfast place in Cushing would be awesome for your husband.
There is Lloyds diner across from the Bus yard but that is off the beaten path.
3:54 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Hmmm . . . there ARE awesome things on the South Side! I need to get myself to Amazing Things - it is literally walking distance from my house. I helped them clean up the property before they opened, but haven't been back since. And the Library - I used to take my children there when they were young, but haven't been since they grew up! Danforth as well - my daughter took art classes there when she was young, but I haven't been there myself since. Time for me to rediscover the area. And it's certainly a dream of ours to open a breakfast place :)
4:24 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
@Jim -- "Of course there is The Cushing property which is one of the gems of the town.
Would love to see that developed with a mini water park for the kids, and ice cream breakfast stop for all the parents and walkers."
That is a GREAT IDEA! I know a lot of families would love to see a spray park in town!
5:07 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Jim, thanks for the info. on the Framingham seal. What a rich history depicted in such a small area.
5:08 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
That would be, "Thanks, Joe." Sorry.
8:25 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
I used to do a history show on the town back in the 90's called Framingham Historical Video Memories.. I did some neat shows about Framingham History. I interviewed the at then town historian Steve Herring, since then he has moved to Florida. My Interview had to do with the Town Seal. Very good informative interview. I review that show in another show dealing with the Salem Witch Trials in the first few minutes.
This interview is about an hour long about that topic.
Yikes, I don't look like that now......
Did you know that the Salem Witch Trials brought a good many "refuges" to live on Salem End Rd which threw the town census off balance a bit resulting to the center of the town being put where the Old Burial Ground is today. Thus, the First Meeting house ended up there BECAUSE of the Salem Witch Trials and those who escaped to Framingham.
Old Burial Ground
4:03 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
You can still walk the trail in the Ashland State Forest (it's across the street from my house so we walk it often) and see the caves where the escapees hid during the day. Spooky but also..........hallowed in a way.
Ironically enough, my grandparents owned and lived on land in Peabody right over the Salem line that Pup bought from the family of one of the men who was pressed to death in the witchcraft trials. And here I am living on Salem End Road.......
Makes me wonder if maybe I should conjure up a couple of spells and see if I can make anything happen................
8:46 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Joe! That's amazing! I love the pictures of Mt. Wayte in the second link - my mother lived in that neighborhood until she moved to a retirement community in Connecticut a few years ago (she actually misses Framingham very much). And the train station from the '50's and '60's - what a beautiful building. I wish there were a way to find a suitable use for it - other than a nightclub or restaurant, I mean. Nice work!
4:11 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
There was a place in Westboro called the Black Lion and it was a big consignment place for juried crafters to sell their wares. I always thought that building would be a great place for something like that - sort of like a higher end crafters' co-op..........with a little cafe to grab some commuter profits to fund the overhead.............
5:59 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Brenda: That's a great idea for the empty Mt. Wayte plaza ...
8:52 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
And the video! I hope everyone takes a look at this - I have to know, in the interest of history (wink wink) - how old is the vdeo?
9:02 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Kim...the video was done around 1994 or close to it.
I actually just put it online for all to see.
9:11 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Jim - I'm so glad you did that, and I hope everyone who reads this takes the time to view. I especially like the closeups of the historical documents. The history of Framingham is actually really fascinating. I stopped the video to post, but going back to it now. Thanks for sharing - I'm having a great time watching!
9:51 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
Very awesome for panache!
also because my girlfriend and I took the photographs that are currently being displayed at panache. see: doom and gloom http://dmgm.tumblr.com
11:10 pm on Tuesday, February 14, 2012
I read the Steve Herring book when I first moved to Framingham. Will check out your link, Joe. Thanks.
12:19 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Steve Herring wrote a great book called South Middlesex, A New England Heritage. A real nice book. Might be able to purchase it at the History Center for those interested.
It's books like this that makes one proud of the town. Of course . I watched the video again of the connection of the Salem Witch trials to Framingham. Dang, I forgot about the interview I had with Mr Harrington in the show. I hope others can watch it. Where did all my hair go..heheheh
We have other history shows we would like to put up. Be patient.
6:11 am on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Joe - would LOVE to see those other shows!
3:53 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Ok, For you history buffs, I found the Town Seal interview. It literally starts 42 seconds into the play time so be a bit patient. This was taken off a video that had to have black for play time in the beginning of the tape. Now everything is digital so we don't need that extra few seconds for the tape to get up to speed. Anyway, lots of good information here to make you proud of the town.
Framingham Town Seal Interview: 1991?
4:09 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
James and Joseph, if the two of you could always be so civil and, dare I say, genteel, your commentaries would be far more welcomed AND valued. Thank you for your contributions to this discussion!
7:32 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Actually Brenda, my brother are very nice people. The problem is most don't see what good we have done for the town, my history interviews proves we have a real love for the town. That is probably why we are so upset by what has been allowed in the town. Today my brother and I went to Salem End Rd to see the Sarah Clayes house. It is in a shambles, totally rotted, windows broken, a huge tree fallen next to the house. The house will probably have to be demolished, I I don't know how it can be fixed. The house goes back to the late 1600's.
I am angry that the people that owned that house let it go .
I am angry that the town let it go and get to this point.
Anyway, we do have opinions about the towns problems but nobody is listening . We do care about the town.
We went to the Town hall after and saw the huge flag on the stage in Nevins hall. Did you know that a certain "immigrant" community when they rented out that hall wanted the flag covered or hidden from their party goers?. Not a good feeling from that.....
8:33 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Joseph, I have no doubt that you and James care about the town - that has never been a question in my mind. However, most of the time the WAY in which you both make your assertions - intended or not - comes across as being hateful, prejudicial and offensive. Again, that may or may not be your intention, but for the reader or recipient of your statements, perception is reality and MY intention in my statement was to let you both know that I recognize your care and concern and only wish that you could always be so civil.
Years ago, my husband and I looked into whether or not we could afford to purchase the house of which you spoke with the intention of turning it into a bed and breakfast. Unfortunately, the property was so tied up in a messy probate/divorce/foreclosure that we couldn't even figure out who was the rightful owner! I believe that is the issue with the people who believed that they had purchased the house several years ago only to find out that the title could not be transferred, or some such legal morass.
That house has absolutely lovely bones - or did - and I feel as sad for it as I would for any grande dame who lost her faculties and slid into a state of decrepitude. And I was so looking forward to serving hot fresh muffins...............
12:39 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012
Brenda - when my husband and I start our breakfast place at Cushing, we'll be knocking on your door for the fresh-baked goods :)
9:31 pm on Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Now that you mention that I do remember that, about the house and you.
Now the house is fit for destruction.....Has the big red X on it now.
12:09 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012
I just read through this thread of comments and was so happy to read such a wonderful exchange of ideas for the town and more importantly so happy to see this exchange of ideas occur without it turning into personal attacks. Some fabulous ideas for the Cushing Park area as well as others were mentioned here. Would be great to keep this conversation flowing, but more importantly to expand on it and really find a way to get some of this in progress. Just wanted to pass along a thank you to all of you for throwing out all these great ideas in such a positive way. These are the things I love to read on Patch!!!
2:07 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012
Karen: I completely agree. Thanks for posting!
1:13 pm on Thursday, February 16, 2012
Kim, Brenda....Ok....When you want to make this a go...I'll invest into it, I'm sure this will turn into another Facebook miracle and I want to be on the bottom floor of it.
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