This guy sure makes Framingham proud!
But then again these are the type of people the Town has welcomed here for many years. I'm sure there are hundreds more like him still here doing their thing.
Jim@ccfiile.com

People that support Illegal immigration must surely realize that Human trafficking  comes with the package. Yes, Illegal Immigration brings all the blowback that any illegal, immoral act can muster.

You smarty pants see only the Illegals working doing yard work, hotel work, and other work, but you fail to see that the person, let's say a woman, quite possibly was ganged raped while she was coming here in one of the stash houses in Arizona or around here.

Your fail to see or even admit that her panties may have ended up in what is called a "rape tree".

http://www.norcalblogs.com/gate/2010/05/rape-trees-segment.php

You fail to look at the misery, the heartache that accompany your cheap workers. Your bargain basement toilet cleaners.

WHO really is to blame for all this? YOU, the person that allows Illegal immigration to be an accepted life style in your town, to be winked at.

Don't feel proud, because your indirect hiring of these people probably has destroyed a marriage or a womans virtue or resulted in an agonizing death in 110 degree heat in the middle of a blazon hot desert.

Then again a long prison sentence for being a mule carrying in drugs as part of the payment to the people supporting the drug cartels.

Of course that resulting in having that innocent Illegal either killed, or in jail to scared to say who he was working for. Yes, all this comes with the Illegal alien kiss of death. 

It all starts with "human trafficking"

Joe Rizoli

Mr. Rizoli- interesting perspective, but you seem to be operating under the assumption that Maness is an illegal immigrant. This is quite a leap considering 93% of all people with that last name are white and less than 2% are Hispanic. That said, it's even more of a leap that if he is Hispanic, he is here illegally.

I know better than to argue with you gentlemen about immigration: I know your minds are made up and I respect your right to speak your mind. In case you are wondering about my statistics, feel free to look it up. Have a great night.

Carrie....Nice to hear from you. I guess you missed the point that this fella is wanted for human trafficking.....trafficking of who...Americans...LOL He could be an American so what? He would most likely be trafficking illegals, wouldn't you agree? Unless you can show me different. If not trafficking of illegals then he would be guilty of kidnapping of Americans which he's not being charged with.
We really don't care what his status is, just what he's doing with illegals.
I hope that clears this up for you. For the record.....Most illegals are Hispanic.
Not that it makes a difference here.
Jim@ccfiile.com

My response had NOTHING to do with this fellas name, ethnicity or if he is a vegetarian. It dealt with the subject matter, Human Trafficking...PERIOD. Don't speak for me when that wasn't my intention. If I wanted to make a big thing about his name I would have, but as you can see, what you think I meant isn't what I meant from your observation.

Human Trafficking can apply to Illegals, Americans doing the trafficking or anyone else. My Issue was HUMAN Trafficking.

Joe Rizoli

I'm sorry I misunderstood you, however I still think that the issue that has to be dealt with has nothing to do with immigration. I've just gotten the impression that you both blame everything wrong with the world on illegal immigration, which I feel is both absurd and, quite frankly, racist.

Carrie...People like you, blame everything in the world, on people they say.... are racist.
Ji@ccfiile.com

Okay, I was stuck at a School Committee meeting that didn't get out until after midnight, but Joe - you know better the "pointed people" reference is inappropriate and not allowed and this has been deleted.
David - I will thus delete your response, as well.
This from the "Roman Catholic" editor. And I will have the last say on this topic when it comes to religion - there should be no more discussion of religion here.

Oh good. I try not to participate in these bizarre debates at all anymore, but that last crack was completely unacceptable. Thank you.

Sometimes it's like have a toddler you have to watch 24 hours a day ...
finishing up the Sch Committee article and then headed to bed.
Goodnight David! Feel free to post anytime.

Bob - I owe you a cocktail for saying what I have been thinking for, oh, I don't know, YEARS!!!! You can't fight gravity, time, city hall or crazy................

What did I miss?
Jim@ccfiile.com

All the hand slappers come out of the woodwork.
Someone makes a point because someone try's to make illegal immigration to all the worlds problems my point of contention, and I refuted it. I say who we're the real culprits using secret illumanati code words invented by me, and I even gave a solution. Apparently finding the problem and ultimately fixing it is a problem with some here.
I guess when you people read the book of the month club mystery novels you don't read the ending chapters of the books. That's why they are called mysteries.

Joe Rizoli

Well, this hand slapper will not put up with posts like this and if you post again like that your account will be suspended - no discussion!!

It was very close with its "secret illumanati code words" of violating our terms of agreement.

It very might have but at 1 a.m. in the morning, I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

Calling people "RACIST" is not a violation of your rules?
Funny how all you folks can break the rules when you want but when the Rizoli's say something that you consider out of line you jump all over them.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Sue, just be fair. The most vile accusations I have seen have been said against us. These are personal attacks and obviously in violation of the Patch rules but you have let them go. As my comments that seem so evil, I could have said the moon was made of cheese, would that be any worse than my comments, both are opinions, or even conjecture and may or not be true. You people take yourselves too serious. If I could count how many times my brother and I have been accused in the Patch of being "racist" and given a dollar, I'd be rich.

Joe Rizoli

rac·ist
  [rey-sist] Show IPA
noun
1. a person who believes in racism

racism or racialism (ˈreɪsɪzəm, ˈreɪʃəˌlɪzəm)

— n
1. the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief

James and Joseph, are you seriously trying to say that neither of you have exemplified the above definitions of the words to which you are both so strenuously objecting?

Brenda......Show us where? I defend, blacks, Hispanics,Latinos, Jews. Catholics, Protestants, Muslims etc...that behave themselves.
You speak to ANYONE who knows us personally and ask them if we have behaved badly with ANYONE of another race, religion, or sexual persuasion.
If anything we've been manhandled by others of certain religious persuasions several times. Not to mention certain ethnic groups who have tried to bring harm to us.
When I do make comments that are considered "hateful" by some here, I make sure I'm an equal opportunity hater of all people that behave badly.
I show NO favorites! And lastly....If we ever sat down together we'd probably have a good time. I would anyway...can't speak for you.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Here Brenda, to help out, are just a few I collected early this year: They HATE it when you quote them. Sad!

“Possibly Hispanic.....What up with that? Either they are or they aren't.”
“75% of the Nigerians in our country are involved in serious criminal activities.”
“Tell Israel to go to hell.”
“An honest Brzazilian.....who would of thunk.”
“If it does go in I'm sure he can get the Brazilian strippers to work for him”
“I hate to see empty storefronts too....it's too bad its all Brazilian.”
“The problem with the Brazilians and MOST South American Countries is they have a way of life centered around fraud.”
"The cable company finally through unscrupulous means and evil deviance decided that when we started criticism of the the Jews and their part in our lot in our immigration..."
---All recent quotes from J. Rizoli (you choose)

So how is anything there "racist"? Nice to see your so fascinated
with us that you save our past posts.....kinda of scary. You must work for the police dept...they do the same thing.
I already stated....... if you act badly I will complain about you.
Everything I've said on my website or TV shows I'm not ashamed of one bit.
That's why my website is the repository of all my thoughts, and people are invited to go there. You can also hear us directly on TV with our two cable shows.
If I truly said something racist and that brought physical harm to someone I would think I'd be arrested by now don't you think? Been talking for 10 yrs now in town and still here smiling.
Jim@ccfiile.com

I am not "fascinated"--please stop flattering yourself! That search took less than two minutes and a cut-and-paste. I watched, by the way, the video you posted here a couple of weeks ago about some protest you did. It was the most boring hour of film I've ever seen. The people you identified as the police asked you to get off of private property, and you tried to turn the whole thing into some weird attack on you. And in the background there was this great musician playing, and you and your three cohorts (or were there only two? one was in a MASK!) kept insisting that he was a problem. I'm telling you, you could really benefit by getting yourself back to school! I just KNOW you are ripe for conversion to the TRUTH. Admit it, your heart is BURSTING to open to the love of your fellow human beings. I know it, or hope it, or else I wouldn't bother.

David Nolta you're becoming our shadow again, creepy creepy.

David, you just put egg on your face. The priest asked those "police" to leave also. The priest treated them just like us....but when he found out they were the police he backed off. David if you think the show was boring good for you, we weren't looking for an Oscar here. But we did get a very valuable interview with Kyle who later on murdered his wife. Our video could probably be used in his court case showing some very daming statements.
But anyway David, keep everyone abreast on the Rizolis.
You must be very very bored....

Joe Rizoli

A shadow is a kind of mirror, and an intelligent person can learn from it. Which is not to say that I am a shadow, nor that anyone is an intelligent person...

Brenda, your viewpoints about us are complete nonsense.
If you went to court you would be laughed out of the court.
Show me anywhere where we've hurt anyone?

We've interviewed the "enemy" and have had them on our cable show.
You want " racism" go ask the Brazilian radio station that has promised Jim could go on and have his say....we are still waiting.

The woman on the Bapo show Shirley Faber, has said Jim could be on her show, we are stiil waiting. We wiil go out of our way for them, they dare not reciprocate. So you tell me, who really has the "intrinsic superiority over others"
It's not the Rizoli's

Joe Rizoli

And for the record, when someone makes a vile and explicit (and, as usual, utterly inaccurate) remark about Jews, and someone else protests, and the Patch moderator removes the remark, what is creepy??? That's right--the vile remark is creepy! Go back to school!

Framingham is full of these creeps! They get to roam around as free as birds.
Wouldn't want to stop a businesses that contributes so much to the neighborhood would ya....You might be called a racist.....
Jim@ccfiile.com

David, I can have an opinion about anyone I want, this is
the USA. If We expose any group of people doing bad, then that is our right as a US Citizen. If you really want a good opinion of exposing bad go to our web site at
CCFIILE.com. The patch doesn't control that content and we don't have advertisers to contend with.

As to the "creepy". The creepy is you following us everywhere we go giving the latest update. You really have a problem and you need help. You're bordering on stalking. You really are a shadow, a poor one at that.
We really don't need shadows we can speak on our own.

Joe Rizoli

The bad you expose is all your own. To read and comment on The Patch is not a form of stalking. I would never dream of following a Rizoli, here or anywhere; in fact, I have simply ignored their repeated overtures to meet them or to be on their "show". The Rizolis have been taken to task before by myself and others about following the rules of this site, and about making racist remarks and accusations. Their constant indulgence in such behavior is, I feel, creepy. I hope this clarifies my stand on this latest personal attack.

David.....We have NEVER been taken to task here or anywhere because the people doing it would have to prove we're wrong....Hasn't happened yet. People like you continue to attack us but have nothing to show we're wrong, you just make false accusations based on your own thoughts.
And even of We were wrong we have the right to say what we want, it's called FREE speech. We follow the rules here that's why we're still here.
jim@ccfiile.com

Nope, nope, nope. I can't let that one go by, James. You and your brother have been asked many many times to back up what you say and you are either never able to substantiate your claims with fact based sources or you attempt to obfuscate the questions posited to you with more rhetoric. Do not insult our intelligence. I can almost guarantee that your vanquishment will be unattractive for all.

David to comment on Patch is your right. To put together past post by any particular persons is stalking. You don't do it for anyone else, so obviously you have it on for someone in particular, the Rizolis, and not everyone else. If you went to court you'd be asked why to these weird actions. You have some sort of obsessive compulsive disorder to post someones previous post going back months. David, you and a chosen few here, would have loved to live during the Salem Witch Trials of 1692 with a lot of your " spectral evidence" nonsense. Exposing the crimilality of any group of people isn't hate or racist, it is just exposing a problem and wanting the law enforced fairly.

Joe Rizoli

You need help. You need education, and you need help. I am not snickering, or teasing, or being mean. You need help, and you need education.

Brenda, state your claims. We've told this town about everything that has happened especially with the illegals. What do you dispute? This aught to be good....

Joe Rizoli

Brenda.....Show us where we're wrong?
For ten yrs we've been telling you about the illegals, the illegal slave trade, the scam mortgages, etc etc....
Everything is factual and right on the money. Just because you don't want to hear about it isn't our problem.
First they ignore you, then they insult you, then they admit you're right......
You haven't humbled yourself to admit we're right yet. But you've done everything else. The Town is showing the results of our yapping, and they still aren't listening.
Jim@ccfiile.com

So Bob....what does that link have top do with the topic being discussed?
Not that it bothers me to show how the Anti-God, Anti-Christian ADL feels about the Rizoli's especially when we expose them on our cable shows. In fact just reading the ADl"s viewpoints of us shows how totally off the wall they are on illegal immigration. What would you like them to say about us. We tell the truth they lie.
They and the tribe they represent are never going be on the same page with us.
We expose all groups that support illegal activities, whether illegal immigration, False past history, or whatever.
It's called free speech and we aren't shy about our feelings. Thus the creation of my website.
jim@ccfiile.com

Bob....Thanks for the advertisement....You might want to learn WE are proud as can be with our relationship with the Hateful ADL. We will continue to expose their Anti-God, anti-Christian, Pro-illegal aliens views.
With organizations like the ADL working in the town as they do with the police force it's no wonder why the town is like it is.
You might like their underhanded tactics but we and millions of others don't.
The ADL and all their cronies will have to answer to God for the immoral actions they have done. God will only tolerate so much before he closes the door on them and people who support them.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Bob....Again....this has nothing to do with the thread but since you insist ....that's just a picture of someone taking out the trash.
You could interpret it any way you want...LOL
Jim@ccfile.com

Bob, what does the links you have to do with this topic?
But THANK YOU. We wouldn't be able to show the world the lunacy of the ADL or the SPLC if it wasn't for people like you. Imagine, wanting the immigration laws enforced gets you on the SPLC's web site hehehe. Having anti-American and anti-Christ groups such as the ADL or the SPLC have information about us shows you the real evil of these groups to our liberty and Christianity in general.
Thanks Bob and thanks Patch, go to CCFIILE.com look what we have to say about those groups. Thanks Sue.
Joe Rizoli

Bob, really now, how old are you, twelve? You would think that a man of your age would be a mature person who would be responsible and post information that was on topic for conversation here. But no, Bob becomes a child, attacking two individuals with post made to attack the character of these two people, for what cause Bob?
Bob even goes to start attacking spelling. Of course replying on an Itouch is a problem at times but that's what most of my post a replied on.
What does the topic here of trafficking have to do with the Rizoli's? Do we have stock in a car company renting to these traffickers? There is no link.

As to those links you posted, we could care less what those links say. But thanks for the advertising though.

Should we start looking up dirt on you Bob? Wouldn't waste my time. Should I start stalking David N and his putting up post he said going back months or years?

Wouldn't waste my time. I reall think Bob, you should start acting your age. It really surprise me that the Patches here don't say anything about your post.

But then again, some of the Patches here think like you Bob at times, and their corporate cowardness for not sticking to principles really shows by what they don't say.

Joe Rizoli

There are 50 comments on this and allI am going to add to this thread Jim & Joe is ...
if you can give it out you should be able to take it, as well.
And I'll remind everyone of our terms of use: http://framingham.patch.com/terms

Dave - I hear you!! And I have heard from many Framingham residents, when I am out and about town, who say they READ but don't post for that same reason. I will take it up with my bosses again.

I was allowing a little latitude on this article in regards to "illegal immigrants" as it did mention "human trafficking" which could go either way.

But I hear you that the article could be about ice cream and some people could question whether the people who made the ice cream or serve the ice cream are "illegal immigrants." And even if the people buying the ice cream are "undocumented."

It really is like a child who wants candy ... or a puppy ... nothing can get them off that topic!

Actually if we didn't get into the topic no one would, and you would be spinning your heads on what the real issues are.
Human Trafficking is a huge problem that has as the main targets illegal immigrant women. Now you can turn a blind eye to it or except it, it's your choice.
But don't get on our case because we bring it up. It is what it is.
Jim@ccfiile.com

I would agree with Dave, above. I am new here and it seems like there are people who have an agenda they promote and bully other people - their career choice, their education, their morals, their religious views, etc. Everything gets tied back to one topic. It makes productive discussion and exchange of view points very frustrating.

Interesting how this is getting diverted away from Bobs mis-doings back onto the Rizoli's now. WHO went further off topic here in the first place? Bob B or the Rizoli's? What does the SPLC have to do with human Trafficking?

What does the topic of Human Trafficking have with Illegal Aliens...PLENTY.

http://www.fairus.org/issue/human-trafficking-exploitation-of-illegal-aliens
<<It is estimated that 14,500 to 17,500 foreign nationals are trafficked into the United States each year.1 Trafficking is the recruitment and transportation of persons within or across boundaries by force, fraud, or deception for the purpose of exploiting them economically. >>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_smuggling
>>People smuggling (also called human smuggling) is defined as "the facilitation, transportation, attempted transportation or illegal entry of a person or persons across an international border, in violation of one or more countries laws, either clandestinely or through deception, such as the use of fraudulent documents">>

Ok, Is Human Trafficking done to American Citizens? If it is then it would be kidnapping. Please correct me if I am wrong here. The ORIGINAL article on trafficking wasn't posted by us and I can bet the article itself isn't a pleasant thing to read in the first place. I only dealt with the topic.

Now I have no problem apologizing if I am in error here, but I can bet that this human trafficking was of an ILLEGAL person.

Joe Rizoli

The subject is Human Trafficking....stick to the topic....
It well known that illegals are part of this, you know it and everyone else knows it, But you have to have something to start the Witch Trials going and I guess this is it.
We didn't go off track here Bob did......and I guess he accomplished what he really wants to see happen here. Nice work Bob.
Hopefully Susan will see what is going on and react accordingly.....but I fear she is being swept up in all the hysteria being made here by some mean spirited people.
Jim@ccfiile.com

As has been said, if you want to be able to include links to MADD, your website, Priest Books, Articles, You Tube Videos, and whatever else, you need to be open to others doing the same. I'm not sure why you are such a good disher but can't take any dishing yourself. You asked to show evidence that you speak out against certain groups as a whole, and it seems like this was accomplished.

The question still remains are illegal aliens relevant to Human Trafficking?
I say yes.....Are Bobs links to us relevant I say no.
Dave.....I know that human trafficking is not just an illegal alien thing, but it's a big part of it. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Should the Rizoli's be strung up on a tree outside the court house for expressing their views......what do you think?
Jim@ccfiile.com

Dave...Good article!
Jim@ccfiile.com

Wow. I just went to the facebook page mentioned. I am a bit shocked by this quote, "You gota love those bastard Jews. Then you wonder why they had been banned in hundreds of countries before taking over the USA. They always play the victim but in this case they start the trouble.How I wait for God to strike down this sick nation of trouble." I hadn't brought up the racist/antisemitic card as I think its often overused. But this is on a whole new level, I believe. How sad. I only post this because Jim asked to show where he was being racist and denied speaking badly about any group just because of that group's identity. Again, wow... At least there are only 4 followers. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, even racists, I suppose.

Kira....Why are you posting this? Whatever is written on anyones Facebook page has Nothing to do with this. Seems like your trying to start trouble.
If you want to join the discussion on his facebook page then do it. It doesn't belongs here. It has nothing to do with the discussion.
David....If you take a person over state lines without their permission that is called kidnapping. That's all I'm saying.
Jim@ccfiile.com

David....why aren't you commenting about General Chemical?
Seems that might be right up your ally.
Jim@ccfiile.com

David....I do agree so what's the problem?
Jim@ccfiile.com

Apparently my links to human trafficking are being unread.

http://www.fairus.org/issue/human-trafficking-exploitation-of-illegal-aliens

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_smuggling

Julia Spitz today in the Sunday paper mentioned "smuggling" of an "ILLEGAL" person from China, She was ILLEGAL, the daughter of ILLEGAL parents who came to America. The daughter was SMUGGLED, or TRAFFICKED, to America. See Sunday MWDN B1 " Bucket List to Ward off Weirdness"

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/news/x345283532/Spitz-Bucket-list-to-ward-off-weirdness

What more proof is need that most of the Trafficking, if not all, is of ILLEGAL PERSONS.

Joe Rizoli

Nice research, Dave. Where did you find the info? I'm just curious.

NICE! I am a huge fan of verifiable data :)

David...Human Trafficking is a HUGE problem case closed.
Whether they are Americans or Illegals it's a huge problem.
Agreed!
Jim@ccfiile.com

For me this boils down to a simple fact: Joe Rizoli made a comment about "six-pointed people who control all forms of the media." He also claimed that the Jews are deeply implicated in the problems of illegal immigration. These are patently racist, hateful, altogether unsupported (and insupportable) remarks. The Rizolis, sadly and with staggering simplicity and ignorance and arrogance, claim once again that to identify their racist remarks AS racist is JUST AS BAD as to make those racist remarks. They have no grasp of the basic tenets of human interaction. The truth does not concern them. They are moved by a race-based fanaticism which leads them to think it is a GAIN to have people pay attention to their racist diatribes. They constantly admonish their frustrated, generally open-minded readers and fellow-posters, to "check out" their website and their cable "show". Then they say that the grosser racism displayed in those venues has nothing to do with the topic at hand. I cannot speak for the Jews, nor the Brazilians, nor the Chinese--each of which groups has been victimized by the Rizolis in the PAST FEW DAYS on this site. But I must say that it seems cruel, at this stage, to pay any heed to the Rizolis--cruel to their victims, and cruel to them.

How about my verifiable post. Notice what I posted:
>>What more proof is need that most of the Trafficking, if not all, is of ILLEGAL PERSONS. >>

MOST if not all....what does that sentence mean?
MOST Brazilians are Illegal......What does that mean? Are they ALL illegal?
MOST MOST MOST.......

David your "verifiable" links as opposed to my links of lies and myths and half truths, show that TRAFFICKING is being linked to SLAVERY. Is that slavery voluntary David? Just curious.Your link mentions SLAVERY David. I guess people who are trafficked like the idea, just can't wait to be trafficked another day and write home about it. These people just LOVE having their organs taken from them.

David. Your article uses words like "COERCION" "SLAVERY" SEXUAL EXPLOITATION " INVOLUNTARY SERVITUDE"

AND:
>> debt bondage, forced recruitment for armed conflict, prostitution, pornography, the illegal drug trade, the illegal arms trade, and other illicit activities around the world.<<

Hmmm It seems a lot of the words used there used the word "ILLEGAL".

Nahhhh must be making it up......After all, my comments are not "verifiable" are they? That link David was YOUR link not mine.

So let's change the words of trafficking to "frolicking". These people are frolicking. They aren't doing anything Illegal, they love being frolicked.

Joe Rizoli

The topic is Human Trafficking....lets try to keep this on track.
Jim@ccfiile.com

As was originally posted and on this topic, Human Trafficking is a very serious problem all over the world. These persons are being brought into all sorts of cruel evil life styles, including pornography, sex slaves, selling of human organs, and Slavery in general as to being forced into labor and such.

As Citizens we would do our best NOT to promote these businesses that use these abused people in any way. That would go for visiting strip clubs that hire these people or internet porn. If we as citizens stop becoming the buyers of these trafficked people hopefully it will stop this sad abuse of human beings.

As Christians or any other religious persuasion with a human conscience, please makes sure you do your best to fight the Human Trafficking Issue.

Joe Rizoli

Amen, Joe!

Group Hug!
Jim@ccfiile.com

Jim--take a deep breath. And don't wreck it!