patching...
Update: Sign up for our free daily e-newsletter, and get Framingham news straight to your inbox every morning! » »
Welcome back, Patch Blogger!

LETTER: Teachers Association Demands Respect During Negotiations

Zanella: "You cannot have a strong house when you have a weak foundation. ... I am constantly baffled with the way teachers are portrayed as greedy.”

 

Editor's Note: The following was read to the Framingham School Committee Tuesday night.

The (Framingham) School Committee has stated on many occasions that it wants to rebuild the school system. Anyone who knows anything about construction knows that it is impossible to build anything without a strong foundation. A strong foundation of any school system includes a supportive School Committee, a long range plan for the district, a true focus on student achievement and a strong, dedicated teaching staff.

With newer teachers choosing to look elsewhere for teaching jobs, and with more veteran teachers retiring early due to the lack of respect and support, your once strong foundation is now weaker. You cannot have a strong house when you have a weak foundation.

The teachers in Framingham have been very generous over the last few years. Two years ago, you asked us to give you two furlough days. After all, desperate times called for desperate measures. The public school system was in financial crisis. Although, we were unhappy about giving up two day’s pay, we did so because we wanted to save programs and be part of the solution.

This was a financial hardship on a lot of people, especially, someone like me whose spouse also teaches in the district. For our family, it was a loss of four days’ pay.

A year later you came to us again and asked for a 0% COLA (cost of living allowance)and a freeze in STEPS and lanes. Once again, the teachers were unhappy with this proposal, but ratified it anyway, knowing we were working together on finding a solution to the district’s financial problems.

During this time, we have also increased our contribution to our health care benefits and we have increased co-pays and now we are paying deductibles. This has been a huge financial burden on all of us.

I am personally offended by the lack of respect that the teachers have been shown during these negotiations. We all know that as we continue to negotiate, we will inevitably be referred to by some in the public as “those greedy teachers.” I am constantly baffled with the way teachers are portrayed as “greedy.” This is a characteristic that I will never understand.

I ask you…

  • Were the teachers being greedy when they gave up 2 days’ pay?
  • Were the teachers being greedy when they accepted a 0% COLA and a freeze in steps and lanes?
  • Were the teachers being greedy when they voted to increase their health care contributions?
  • Were the teachers at McCarthy being greedy when they purchased a Christmas tree, the decorations and presents for a single father who could not afford Christmas for his child?
  • Were the teachers at Cameron being greedy when they bought food for a family of a dying child so that they didn't have to worry about grocery shopping?
  • Were the teachers at the high school being greedy when they paid the fees for field trips for students who couldn’t afford it and then bought them lunch on the day of the field trip?


I could spend all night and well into tomorrow giving you examples of the teachers’ generosity in this district. We do not do these things for recognition. We do them because we are teachers and we care about our students.

We have proven time and time again that we are willing to come to the table and work with you to do what’s best for children. All we are asking for is the same respect in return.

However you can only bend a branch so far before it breaks. If you do not retain and recruit talented teachers, what happens to our children? If you do not retain and recruit talented teachers what happens to our schools? If you do not retain and recruit talented teachers what happens to Framingham?

If we, as a district, do not want to keep the most talented and dedicated teachers then, by all means continue down the path of blatant disrespect for our dedicated and talented professionals. The result will be the remnants of a town that was once revered for its dedication to education, which will now be a ghost of its former self.

You can stock a school with supplies, add new technology, and change curriculum all you want but if you do not begin with respecting the professionals who dedicate their lives to the children of this town then you do not truly have a strong school system.

Keep Framingham strong! I urge you to settle a fair and equitable contract that shows the respect that my dedicated colleagues deserve!

Liza Zanella

Leader of the Association's negotiating committee and a third grade teacher at McCarthy Elementary School

Related Topics: Contract Negotiations, Framingham School Committee, Framingham Teachers Association, and Letter to the Editor

Karen Kornbau

8:14 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Please know that most of the public comments you read likely do not reflect the majority opinion! I have great respect for our FPS teachers and believe you have one of he most important jobs in our nation. Thank you for all you do each day for my/our children.

Reply

Ray Salemi

8:58 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

There is a story about a farmer who fed his horse a little less each day, then complained that the animal died just as he had taught it to go without food.

Seems to be the strategy some would like to use when negotiating with teachers.

Reply

Heidi McIndoo

10:34 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

As a parent to a FPS student and the wife of a Boston public schools employee it never ceases to amaze me HOW MUCH teachers and school staff do for our children, above and beyond teaching them the 3 R's. And it saddens me every time I hear about how litte some people appreciate this often thankless job.

It's ridiculous to me that a person can get paid millions of dollars to play a game (baseball, football, etc.) however those that choose to help teach our children have to fight constantly just to get enough money or benefits to cover their medical expenses or the increasing price of gas and groceries.

Reply

Derek from Framingham

11:58 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I find portions of this letter in very poor taste. Ok, you made a statement that the teachers have given 2 furlough days, a 0% COLA, and some increase (curiously you didn't mention the number) for health benefits. These are valid points of concessions made - however I think it should be pointed out that many in the private sector have fared far worse and that is who you asking more from.

What is extremely in poor taste is bragging about acts of charity the schools have made. This reads we gave to a poor family at Christmas time, we gave food to a hungry, ... and now we deserve something in return. You should be proud of those acts of kindness - but now to use them for your financial gain is utterly classless.

You give a gift for the purpose of giving the gift - not for the purpose of getting something in return. If that's your idea of what a gift should be then stop giving a gift.

I could only imagine those of us in the private sector that walked into our bosses office and said I want more money - no I'm not being greedy - see I made a donation to the Cancer society, I made a donation to church, heck I even gave my kid's teacher a Christmas and end of the year gift - so show me some respect and give me some more money even though the business is having a terrible year economically.

Respect has nothing to do with it. It is simple accounting.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Kim Poness

1:10 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Well said, Derek. Due to salary cuts at my last company, I effectively gave up 30 days' pay, received a 0% raise at year end, and also paid more for my health benefits when open enrollment time came around. And you are absolutely right - it is those of us, who have suffered financial hardship in terms of rising costs and declining pay, who are being asked to give more to the private sector, and most of us simply do not have it.

Comment_arrow

KKM

2:30 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Oh Derek, Derek, Derek....Kim, Kim, Kim......You miss the point entirely. Lisa's speech wasn't offensive at all in the way you describe. You must take the comments IN CONTEXT. The ONLY reason those cases were brought up in that speech was to point out to those who call teachers greedy that it's not the case at all. If you're going to say, "We aren't greedy," it behooves you to give examples to back up your statementas fact, not merely the opinion of those stating it. Otherwise, how can anyone who doesn't know the way teachers in Framingham give back to the community accept it as fact? If you MUST comment so negatively, read again and use the context upon which to base your OPINION.
Also......the town is doing better this year as is evidenced by the amount of money awarded to the school budget. So though your businesses may be having a "terrible year economically," the school committee says otherwise about its budget this year. When things WERE terrible, we made our concessions in good faith. THAT'S what Lisa was talking about. Please, do your homework before you bash teachers.

Comment_arrow

Kim Poness

3:07 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

KKM - I'm assuming (perhaps incorrectly) that you are a teacher in Framingham? I sincerely hope you don't take that sarcastic and condescending tone when dealing with the children in this town. My experience years ago at the high school would indicate that that behavior is the norm, but I had hoped my experience was an isolated incident. Perhaps not?

Although Derek seems quite capable of defending himself and his opinions, it seems that he was voicing his opinion in quite an articulate fashion, which he (and I) have every right to do. He neither took a condescending tone, nor did he "bash" anyone. I am also going to guess that your degree is not in business, otherwise you may not have made the statement “ . . . as evidenced by the amount of money awarded to the school budget.”

Lastly, I am a town meeting member, and trust me, I did my homework about the school budget, year over year student enrollment, comparative analysis of average teacher salaries in neighboring towns, and on and on. The budget was voted on quite late at night after nearly a month of meetings, with perhaps an hour of debate (we debated longer than that on issues of much less dollar value and significance). Perhaps you should do some more homework as well, rather than lashing out based on defense of your profession. I don’t usually post in this tone, but quite frankly, I’m a little offended by yours.

Comment_arrow

Linda Dunbrack

5:32 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

Three points--

1. In the past year, employment costs for public sector jobs have gone up less (1.5%) than they have in the private sector (2.1%) on a national basis. This figure includes wages and benefits, BTW. http://www.bls.gov/news.release/eci.nr0.htm

2. An important point that the speaker (letter) didn't mention is that the lowest paid teachers in the district will be getting a 7.5% raise this year in the absence of any collective bargaining agreements. They will get a 2.5 percent from the steps that were deferred last year, and then a 5% step increase on top of that.

3. Lots of people work really hard with little in the way of thanks. That's called life. Teachers get appreciation brunches and gifts etc all the time. That is more than most working people get.

Comment_arrow

Derek from Framingham

6:21 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

KKM if the writer had stopped at the list of concessions that would have been one thing - but to list the 'good deeds' - I'm sorry its bragging and in poor taste especially since it is being used in the argument. And let's call it for what it really is - it is not about respect it is about getting a raise - let's not sugar coat it.

Linda makes a very good point of the other types of raises that the teachers don't bring up. In the real world where the rest of us live - any increase in pay is a raise - you can call it whatever you want but its simple math - if you got more than the year before you got a raise. But for some reason this type of math doesn't apply to teachers. A teacher gets a step raise but no COLA and somehow still has the audacity to claim they didn't get a raise. Sorry - but yes you did - your pay went up!

If the School has some extra money - maybe we should bring back one of those programs that we hear gets decimated to the detriment of the children. Or are you only in favor of that after you get your raise?

Joe Rizoli

12:30 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I hope the teachers get in line to learn new languages or they probably will be out of work. The illegal immigration blowback is heading our way. Good luck with this one.
You'd think teachers would be complaining when their jobs as teachers are lost to those who are bi-lingual teachers.
I guess it not a good time to be an American who speaks one language anymore. We warned you.....

Joe Rizoli

Reply

Jim Rizoli

12:43 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

To follow it through....can't wait for the bus drivers to know 2 or more languages.....
We will really know how bad it is when most of the posts on Patch are two languages.....
Jim@ccfiile.com

Reply

KKM

8:49 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

Derek, I haven't gotten a raise. 0%. I'm on step 12. There are no more steps and we have agreed to 0% in good faith. yet, with health insurance premiums up,because we voted for that increase in good faith, I have, in essence, taken a pay cut. I have a medical issue making it even more dramatic. I knew going into this field that I wouldn't ever be among the wealthy, but that's not why anyone goes into teaching. I knew I wanted to teach early on and I went in with young idealistic eyes. I was going to change the world!! Over the years, the harsh realities of the world were learned the hard way. I still don't expect to make a salary that will allow me the life of a wealthy woman, and that's fine with me....but the respect we're talking about isn't just about money. If you watched the school committee meeting the other night, you would have been, I hope, appalled at the tone with which David Miles spoke to the teachers. He was rude. The meeting was about to begin and there was music still being piped in through the sound system in the back of the room. When asked if it could be turned off, he yelled, "It will be turned off when WE are ready. The meeting will begin at 7:45!" Then he proceeded to apologize when the meeting started, to the 22 retirees who were being acknowledged because if not for the presence of the teachers, they would have had a nice little reception for them! They won't even come to the table! I LOVE my job. I don't love the politics of it.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Derek from Framingham

11:00 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

KKM I can sympathize for your situation - you say you have effectively taken a pay cut with a 0% raise and a raise in health benefits. Well Kim just gives you her situation where she took around a 10% pay cut and pays more for her benefits meaning even a bigger pay cut. And I can assure you there are many more in her same boat. So why is it fair to ask those that have taken a much bigger pay cut than you for more of their money at a time when they need it most? Where is the respect for them?

Maybe Linda or someone else can give us the real facts - how many teachers this year are already guaranteed some type of raise under other agreements?

Comment_arrow

Linda Dunbrack

11:43 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

@Derek--I already recycled my paperwork, but the number of teachers getting some sort of increase is roughly half. These are the typically younger teachers on the bottom end of the pay scale, the ones with the big student loan payments. Some of the raises are associated with reaching educational milestones, which I would consider a merit increase of sorts (in union language they are called lane changes).

I'd prefer to see teachers rewarded for being National Board Certified or for certifications in areas like special education, ESL, math and literacy, before talking about COLAs. That would boost the salaries of many of the best experienced teachers and provide an avenue for increasing pay to the rest. It would be similar to many recent changes in municipal contracts: building in rewards for people who add value to services by bringing something extra to their job.

Comment_arrow

Linda Dunbrack

1:08 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

When is 0>0? Here are two examples:

The 2-day furlough in 2010-11 school year amounted to a 1% reduction in salary. However, the contract that was in force had a 3% COLA. *So, teachers actually received a net 2% increase over the prior school year, even with the furlough.*

Further, while there was no change in the salary schedule in 2011-2012 School year, there was actually, a 1% increase in the amount everyone actually received, over and above steps and lanes. *In other words, this year every teacher in the district received at least 1% more this year than they did the year before, and those who received steps typically received another 2.5% more.*

Ray Salemi

12:01 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

I am never comfortable with a lobsters-in-a-pot line of argument that says, "Things are bad for me, so I'm going to make sure they're bad for you too."

This is a simple situation. We need teachers. We need to pay them.

The teachers have every right to ask for every dollar that the town is willing to pay, and the town has every right to try to get then to take as little money as possible. It's just a negotiation.

What is not helpful, and this was the point of the original letter, is to throw words around like "greedy" when describing the teachers. They are a group of people who are negotiating for their salary.

What's even less helpful is to ask, "Why should they get a raise when my boss, in my unrelated company and unrelated industry, didn't give me one?"

Reply
Comment_arrow

Kim Poness

12:39 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Ray - when we in the public sector do not get raises year after year, when we in the public sector have to spend more of our paychecks to purchase our health insurance and pay for the deductibles, when we in the public sector have to pay rising costs of living with less money, that means we have less money to pay teachers. Very simple. It's not "things are bad for me, so I'm going to make sure they're bad for you too." It's more accurately, "things are bad for me, so I cannot afford to give you more."

Jim Rizoli

12:21 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Ray...The issue is WE can't afford to pay for them the money they want.
Nothing personal.....This all comes down to money in money out.
The money out seems to be winning. At some point as things get worse... they won't even have jobs...and the ones who speak English only will be more expendable.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Reply
Comment_arrow

Ray Salemi

1:01 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

What if good teachers can't afford to live on the money we claim to be able to pay them? There are two flavors of armageddon. One is bankruptcy due to overspending, the other is bankruptcy due to lack of services. This gets back to the horse story.

Ray Salemi

12:58 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

@Kim. I think the "we don't have the money for raises" is divorced from what people in the public (do you mean private, btw?) sector earn. We don't have an income tax in Framingham, so income is irrelevant to the budget.

Consider. Some people in Framingham are doing quite well financially (there are always some people doing well) so should the teachers get a raise based on those people's income?

I say "No." I say that issues of personal income are only barely related to the town budget, whether the personal income of specific individuals has gone up or down recently.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Kim Poness

1:07 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Ray - you are absolutely correct - I meant "we in the private sector". Oops!

Comment_arrow

Linda Dunbrack

1:07 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

I'd argue that a *community's* collective ability to pay is based on the personal income of its inhabitants. Likewise, all of the raises in a town budget need to be considered, not just one slice. So neither the circumstance of an individual teacher or individual taxpayer is relevant. They are both comparable anecdotal. A bigger picture look is required in both instances.

Ray Salemi

1:15 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

@Linda. This website needs a "Like" or "Agree" button. I think you're right in that the bigger picture is required.

Reply
Comment_arrow

Linda Dunbrack

1:20 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Can I like that comment? ;-)

Walt Magee

4:29 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

Town employees like to compare their salaries to surrounding town but they don't like to compare benefits. Healthcare contributions in Framingham are 10% or maybe 12%. Most surrounding towns have to contribute 25%. The difference amounts to in excess of $5,000 a year.

Reply

Ned Price

4:41 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

I do not think Framingham teachers are overpaid
The Globe graph in the June 7 edition of Globe West
shows that Framingham teachers are in the middle as far as salaries go
I support their efforts to get better wages However there are simply too many of them There is no way the school system should be hiring MORE teachers and they are.

Reply

Leave a comment