This made Anderson Cooper's "ridiculist" last night...

I just don't hear much loud public swearing. Makes me wonder what was going on in Middleborough since this won easily.

Any town that votes this in should be prepared to lose money. If Northborough does this, I'd go out of my way to shop in any other town. In today's world, your wallet is almost as powerful as your vote.

I'm for such a Ant-Swearing Law. But first we will also need:

- Formation of an Anti-Swearing Committee in every town
- Formation of Anti-Swearing training for the Town Police force
- Creation of a Holding Cell in the local town police dept. for apprehended swearers in the town.
- Creation of Grand Juries to hear alleged cases in Swearing
- Creation of a Training Program for District Attorney Offices to know how to prosecute Swearing crimes (a felony or will it be a mere misdemeanor?)
- Creation of Appeal Board in every town where an accused Swearer can appeal.
- Appropriate more funds at Annual Town Meetings to implement this new anti-swearing bureacrazy we just created.
- Create a Fine punishment structure for those convicted of swearing to pay a Fine. And, also to pay Restitution to those a person swore at. If a person swore at their own town or State govt, the Fine would be doubled.

Oh yes, last but not least, we need Constitutional Amendments to the Massachusetts and U.S. Constitutions to modify the Free Speech 1st Amendment Clause in the U.S. Constitution.

This whole matter frankly doesn't pass muster and doesn't even meet the standards of passing the Silliness Test. Give we a stupid and silly idea and we'll create a new law and far worse a costly govt beaucrazy.

Absolutely not! Freedom of Speech! and it's stupid. (some people clearly have nothing better to do?)

"John Spartan, you are fined one credit for a violation of the Verbal Morality Statute."

Hell, no.

Sure! And while we're at it, women should go back to covering their ankles. Ankles are the devil's way of saying "there's a leg up there."

Hey Ben>>"there's a leg up there."
I can't stop laughing about that. That's funny

if a dime of tax payers money is used to even concider this we should pickit the townhall and chant "f@#$ no, they need to go!" and ask any town/city board member wasting our money to resign

Mean while you see and hear it all over TV. Watch MTV for 2 minutes (that's all I can suffer through) and it's rude, crude, and socialy unacceptable. But God forbid we say shit on Main St. Elect some more Libs to protect us! I propose a swear fest in middleborough (where the hell is middle boro?)

What the hell are these brain dead people in Middleborough thinking. Haven't they f@#$@#in heard of the g#$%^$%^dam first amendment. We can say any d$$%#m thing we want and in any f#@#@#kin place we want to because we have the right to express ourselves with whatever dumbed down language we now use. I just love to hear the colorful expressions the kids use while walking Main Street. Too bad their parents never heard of Fells Naptha.

How about getting OUT of the legislating morality business and start dealing with budgets, deficits, funding services, doing road and building maintenance so we can keep them in service rather than a complete expensive rebuild - Government id a civil, not a social entity so lets start with making government deal with civil issues and not should we be allowed to swear in public.

Neil Licht, Marlborough

Apparently, such a law in necessary for the Milford School Committee.

We wouldn't need it if MW drivers learned how to drive. They could start by enforcing the turn signal law. :)

Can't we just put soap in their mouths to "clean up" their language?
Seriously however, the last thing any of our local municipalities need in this economy is a "First Amendment" lawsuit. Our local budgets are stretched far enough trying to enforce the laws that are already on the books without further depleting those budgets defending Constitutional lawsuits.

Maybe they are swearing because they can't use their leafblowers.
jim@ccfiile.com

A word or two should be handled by those around the person swearing. I've had to do it a few times for kids in the game room at the Y, and elsewhere. If there is some ongoing outburst in public, we have public nuisance laws for that, stupid a*% town meeting voters in Middleboro. I never go there, but perhaps if I'm nearby I'll have to have some fun and vocalize a couple colorful words in the town office building. :)

if i'm watching tv or renting a movie that has swear words in it and my neighbor overhears that will i have to pay a fine? what about when my brother visits from another town and says a swear word becuase he stubs his toe? i think i want this law because it would be fun to see how police handle it.

It is all that much better that ultra-lib Andersen Cooper finds this crazy.....afterall this is an inevitable result of big government progressive liberal policies. Enjoy sleeping in the bed you have made. It is very similar to the Jews in pre-war Germany.....most loved Hitler....and said to those who spoke of what's comming...."Youre crazy....that will never happen". Well....how did that work out for ya?

When people can't use their better judgement and speak in good taste then something has to be done to make them wake up and change their vocabulary. I hear a lot of vulgarity in front of my home and in and around framingman that you do not want to be heard around children. If for nothing else then to protect our young ones.

Please Marlene.....this is a matter of how you are raised rather than an issue for the police. It's that plain and that simple. If the First is tossed, who's to say what will be next. Today it may be an f-bomb but tomorrow it may be the right for women to vote, or the ban on slavery, or the right to live all together. You may not like who or what the Constitution protects sometimes....but in the end it's protections are for the good of us ALL.

MrMilford....please use caution using logic and sayings like that here.....keep it up and you are likely to be labled a Catholic Wingnut Radical....like myself. Just keep in mind that the label comes from those who preach tolerance and respect.

Middleboro is just following the liberal Obama Socialist agenda. It's going to happen because I said so, and damn the Constitution! Get used to it folks, because if things don't change in DC soon it's going to continue to trickle down and get a lot worse.

Framingham already has too much for the police to enforce, adding swearing enforcement would just be too much!!!j

I don't like hearing it around my child but you can't fine someone for it. There are only 3 laws don't hurt don't murder and don't brake a contract, every thing else is just a way for government to get bigger and bigger while making our wallets lighter and lighter. Hey! Lets fine them for robbery.

This is sure causing lots of commentary. So who wants to address the concept that I put forward in my original comment - Government is a civil not a social engineering or social regulatory tool.

Neil.....I'd be glad to....you are absolutely correct. However, this is the agenda of obama and the progressives, to fix what is wrong or laking in some by taking from those who work hard and are justly rewarded for their efforts. They call it social justice but it is in fact just plain old theft. And to note their accomplishments...they have succeeded in convincing people that to go against their agenda means you are a racist, a bigot, or are waging a war on women. Brilliant.....it just needs to be exposed for the truth.....one one group looses freedom and liberty.....we ALL loose. Just look to the black community for proof....they were freed by Lincoln ( a Republican for those who choose to forget) and have found themselves back in chains at the hands of the liberals. Liberals even go so far as to label those black men and women who break freeof their chains as Uncle Toms. Wake up America. Live free or die.

So Predator, truth and creating trust in what you say is important. So is the ability to influence opinion and do so with credibility. To achieve all of that, how about posting your real name and not doing what some might call hiding. Neil

Neil....people will come to their own conclusions....as they should. I keep my name private because of what I say and the truth behind my words which are very unpopular. I choose to voice my opinion and avoid the "radical", "wingnut", and "Nazi" labels for sake of my job and to avoid personal liberal attack in my private life. As my moniker implies....the results of such an attack would very unfortunate for the liberal sheep. Just look to the demonstrations at the BOA exec's home last year, yes the one with the man's twelve year old child terrified in his home, the results of that occuring at my home would have had very different results. In the end....people need to see the error of the progressive agenda for themselves....my name will not assist in this awakening.

Predator....and all that don't use their real names....If you really mean what you say then you use you real name.
I say quite a bit about a lot of different topics....not ashamed of any of it. My website has to be the most controversial one around here. i produce two cable shows seen every week. If you got a problem with it then you know who to call.
When you let you clothes hang on the line no one will bother you. when you hide behind the wall everyone is looking for you.
You might lose you job, be called racist and every slur in the book etc.....but you will be proud to say... you're not a coward.
jim@ccfiile.com

I hide behind the wall cause , Dude you dont wanna see me in my speedo!

The real question is can the Middleboro Town Meeting Voters gain the right to call in the National Guard. God knows our communist sissy governor won’t have the guts to take action.

In related news, I’d like to give out an award for the stupidest response here listed as of 3 PM. That would go to one responder (whose moniker begins with “P”). Congratulations “P”; You’re blaming Obama and his kind for this legislation was the stupidest thing I’ve read in days.

“Predator” (I use your full name since it’s not your real name). In your several responses I was tempted to award you with the distinction. However, I decided that your efforts deserved their own reward. You are the biggest coward of the day for announcing so moronically why you don’t publish your name).

As you may guess, my name is my real name… and I approve this response.

Thanks all for proving my point. No where did I blame obama for this legislation....only legislation and the attitude that goes along with it. Yep....I'm a coward.....and now I'm hurt.....boo hoo. The fact is what I have said is the truth....feel otherwise....prove it.

Predator, don't count me among those who prove your points. I identified someone else, clearly and explicitly, in regards to Obama.
My indictment of you was simply for being a coward (again, I was explicit). Don't worry, you are in good company.

I'm sorry if people are labeling you a NAZI. One of histories most horrid groups were woefully efficient and powerful, not cowards like you. If only the Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, insane had been persecuted by cowards like you!

At least 7 of the mos recent posts are off topic. As often happens, posts here veer off into name calling, left wing / right wing labeling and personal attacks. Perhaps Patch should levy a fine for that.

Yep....I'm a coward....no problem....funny how all the comments have turned to me and away from the topic.....sheep. Keep up your personal attacks....they prove my point about deflection, lies, and leading the masses....hopefully someone will see them for what they are.

freedom seems to disappear more and more in USA...

Mary Washington.....I'll keep it real simple.....when you were hired as a teacher and joined the union.....Did you have a choice?

Predator,
Just out of curiousity, has their ever been any human endeavor that didn't prove one of your fine points?

ps it's not funny that the comments have turned to you. In fact, I'd bet a hell of a lot of money that this isn't nearly the 1st time that you have bravely used empty, yet confrontational rhetoric to bring attention to your anonymous self.

pps To Milanek: This marks no substantive disappearance of freedom at home. Try reading the USA Patriot Act, that's worth a comment about freedom, and perhaps more so how willing eager Americans all over were willing to approve it (not just the good voters at middleborough's town meeting.

You're a silly piece of work Predator. If you think there were unions in Fairfield County, South Carolina, when I joined that school system your ain't smart enough to be a Nazi. Especially a Catholic one! What makes you think I was forced to be in a union? Or in one? Is your question living proof there should be no unions. You spout off here like everyone is stupid. You're wasting our time. I join a new place to get to know people, share some ideas, etc. and the first thing I run into are the attitudes I thought I left 15 years ago. Is this Northborough? Or just maybe or something like the Tea Party group I saw outside the state house in Columbia, where they still fly the Confederate flag. Obama dressed like Hitler. Dressed like a Muslim terrorist. Liberals = Communists. Say some prayers while you walk it off.

First Amendment? Freedom of speech? What's that?

You guys are so cute, going on and on about things that have nothing to do with local legislation.

Good point....back to the topic....can you be fined for swearing in any language....does it include hand jestures?

Why is Predator, quite a warlike name BTW, afraid to use their real while making way too many nontrue historical points without any facts. The retorts back against Predator will only gain us more retorts without substance or facts and keep the discussion off point.

Ignore Predator and again, I ask "How about getting OUT of the legislating morality business and start dealing with budgets, deficits, funding services, doing road and building maintenance so we can keep them in service rather than a complete expensive rebuild" Government is a civil, not a social entity so lets start with making government deal with civil issues and not should we be allowed to swear in public.

Opinions on that please and until Predator, a very scary name and connotation owns up to who they are, I'm going to ignore Predator's answers.

Neil Licht

@Ephraim Lessell, i am aware of the Patriot act and many others, to name few: NDAA act, CISPA, peace time martial law we are currently under thanks to Barry Sotero aka Obama etc ,its sad to see. Taking away small rights, as the freedom to swear is what i call totalitarian tip toe. starts small ends big.

Will someone please answer Neil?

Never. No town, city, or state should think they have a right to castrate the Constitution.

Predator, you ferocious warrior:

I’m as guilty as anyone for the unforgivable sin of getting off topic, but another responder reminded me of how offensive, ignorant and incorrect your comments about The Jews in Germany when Hitler came to power.

You make a false claim that the Jews in pre-war Germany were pro Hitler. While many German Jews strove to assimilate into German culture in the pre-war period, though there is no evidence that Jews supported Hitler in substantial numbers. Why would they? Hitler’s anti Jewish stance was not hidden. On the contrary, it was a repeated rallying point which served both to scapegoat the Jews and provide another point of differentiation by which Hitler assured Germans of Aryan backgrounds that they were best of all, superior to other races. Hitler’s Mein Kampf (first volume was first published in 1925) provides unequivocable proof that his anti Jewish stances were available and known.
What evidence do you have for your claim? Howevere, there are hundreds of essays by European Jews which effectively counter your claim. Want to see them? Find the book on Modern Jewish History by Jehuda Rheinharz and Mendez Flohr for a start.

Just back from church and borrowed the computer. Bless you Ephraim. The more I read our dear Predator the more he reminds me of those pea brained predators in one of those jungle movies made by that Jew who loves Nazis so much he made the List picture about a concentration camp I have watched several times with family and students. I would not waste time asking this poor boy for evidence. But now we know why he wears a mask. We all need to stand up to prejudice and here is a good target.

A happy Fathers Day to all my new friends. Raise your children to seek the truth, be tolerant and unselfish. And never to be eaten by predators without a good scrap.

Offensive because I used "loved" and should have used suported....my bad....or offensive because I was refering to progressive policies? Either way....I really don't care....you do not have a right to not be offended.

In the end the answer is NO.....no one will benefit from this or another similar law.The Constitution must be respected and obeyed.....for the benefit of us all.

I do not see any prejudice on my part....the same as I don't see any tolerance on yours.

Just finished some good pie....Sonny, if you were in my class I would send you to the principal's office and get some wood on your behind -- and then give you a lesson on how to write. Are you now suggesting Jews supported Hitler? Feels that way. And that you don't give a 'coon's behind about whether you are telling the truth or being anti-Semitic or pro-Nazi Germany? Just as long as you are attacking liberals. Now, by boy, that is wing nut talk. And worse. Why not just say you made a mistake, are sorry if you offended any Jewish folks and will give us your name, which apparently you used and got called a wingnut.

Folks why are you still responding to Predator? No name, distorted facts, no proof, intollerance. Stop giving this person visibility and a pulpit. Instead, ignor the person, do not respond and slowly, Predator will have no influence or credence in this or any other discussions.

Neil

Question for Mary Washington...you said....
"The more I read our dear Predator the more he reminds me of those pea brained predators in one of those jungle movies made by that Jew who loves Nazis so much he made the List picture about a concentration camp I have watched several times with family and students".

Not sure what all that means. Can you elaborate? If not here through my email.
Jim@ccfiile.com

Please keep the comments focused on the article and not each other. Thanks!

Mary Washington....I couldn't understand your comment and asked for clarification but Mary the gatekeeper deleted my post.
You know things are bad here when sincere questions get deleted....
Jim@ccfiile.com

i would second Mary ;) many discussions go wrong because of this.

Sue...He we go gain with the nutso censors!
Jim@ccfiile.com

Mary Washington seems to have penny stocks in the word Nazi, she uses it a lot when this topic isn't even close to Nazis, Jews, blacks or anything near what she is talking about.
As to THIS topic:
If swearing is a problem anywhere maybe a few signs throughout town asking people to be kind and courteous in their language and make sure their words are good enough as to be spoken to your mother and not the trash spoken to a cell mate.

Joe Rizoli

"xxxxxxx doesn't delete any comments; but your fellow Patch readers can hit the "inappropriate button" and after so many do hit the button, a comment does get hidden from the site."
Soooooo we can all team up and click the inappropriate button on every post from the user named xxxyyyzzz and he'll be silenced, SWEET.

Now back to topic here
Making swearing against the law isn’t a freedom of speech issue as it’s a forced sense of morality on others, this IMO beings us back to the days of the puritans and old colonial days.
If the town has an issue with kids shouting out vulgarities across the streets or what not, deal with that issue, don’t force your morality on me.

the comment: ".... We hear LOUD swearing at all hours of the day and night. I would WELCOME this law. Why should I have to listen to someones uneducated mouth, who can't form a decent sentence unless it has 4 letter words in it?...."

I would think the issue is about the loudness at late hours (or any hour?) and not necessarily foul language. Non-swearing language that is loud and frequent would also be a problem anywhere. ? If someone(s) were talking/yelling loud and repeatedly at night (or day?) on my street would clearly be heard by a lot of people. And I think that would not be liked on a regular basis. I know I wouldn't.
Is that considered disturbance I wonder.

So, my concern is more about the loudness, not the foulness.
Sorry for those who are subject to this.

The town should just put up a few signs in specific places in the town asking the residents to keep their language respectful. Not a big deal. No different than putting up signs about dogs or litter.

Joe Rizoli

That's ok, not just bad language but talking loud on your cell phone could get you SWATed.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/06/minnesota-man-brutalized-by-swat.html?m=1

Joe Rizoli

Actualy it is a big deal.. an extremely big deal which is why Freedom of Speech is our first freedom. Freedom of Speech is a bitch: it encompasses words, phrases, and ideas some people like and equally it encompasses words, phrases, and ideas that some people absolutely detest and despise.

So, no law or regulation should be passed which castrates any of our Freedoms whetther the first one of the Constitution or any one of them.

Really? Why is this even a topic? They are only words, and if people are so spineless they let words get them upset.. we need to be taken off the Mammal list and put with the Invertebrates.

Question ? How can a past post by me that I put up months ago be dated for Aug 6, 2012?
Then post by me appear as June 2012?

Look at the dates of my post.
Today is Aug 6, 2012

What's up with that? Software glitch?

Joe Rizoli

great discourse