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Obama's and Democrats' War on Women

Based on the Obama and Democrat campaigns' trying to pin a war against women on the Republicans, one might think that Democrats view women merely as vessels for procreation and amour. But if there's a "war against women" it's the Democrats who are waging the battle. FACT: When Obama took office the unemployment rate for men was 9.2% and for women 7.3%. Today the unemployment rate for men has dropped to 8.4% and RISEN for women to 8.1%. FACT: The Archbishop of Chicago Francis Cardinal George has warned that the Health and Human Services mandate on contraception might force the city's Catholic social services to shut down. FACT: in an August Gallup poll men and women both listed the same two top issues facing the country: the economy (men 32%, women 30%) and unemployment (men 22%, women 25%). Abortion issues registered at one half of one per cent. And Obama's economic policies have been disastrous. Unemployment has remained above 8 per cent for over forty months. The average family of four has $160,000 of federal debt. And since only one in two families pay federal income tax, for taxpayers the per family debt is actually $320,000 and growing. Women are employees, mothers, wives, grandmothers and employers. In many cases, probably the majority, they keep the household budget. They know under this president their homes have declined in value, their kids frequently are unemployed or under-employed. And the president is intent on raising taxes on anyone making $200,000 or more a year, with the top marginal rate rising from 35% to 44%. How's that for a plan to increase small business activity and boost the economy? And let's not forget Liz Warren (the intellectual founder of the Occupy movement) with her attacks against corporations. No women (or husbands) working at and drawing paychecks from those evil corporations?! Let's face it: there is no war on women. It's a ludicrous issue. But there are good economic policies and bad economic policies that affect us all.

-Pete Laird Sr. Member of the Dover Republican Town Committee

Views expressed are my own (and certainly not my daughter-in-law's) See ya 'round the campus. In this blog I drew on Meghan Clyne's recent article in The Weekly Standard.

David Nolta

9:52 pm on Friday, September 21, 2012

Sorry, but the nearly 200 members of Congress--including Paul Ryan--who were willing to sign onto the Akin bill limiting the rights of women to decide for themselves how to handle their pregnancy after rape or incest---that's a pretty big deal. Linda Worthy has written very eloquently on this subject in the past few weeks, right here on this Patch! As for the Catholic Church--much as I love it, it is NOT a leader in establishing equality for women (duh). And why shouldn't the unemployment rates for men and women be relatively aligned? As long as they're going down across the board?

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nancyarmitage

8:43 am on Saturday, September 22, 2012

I haven't seen anything on the Republican platform to expand women's rights on social or economic issues; in fact, they seem to be set on setting more limits. Women still get less pay for the same jobs -- any attempt to fix that has been denied by the Republican led senate without any alternative bills presented. Insurance companies and employers can cover viagara without debate but for some reason should not be required to cover birth control (is that really still an issue? Really? ) I guess we aren't supposed to "worry our pretty little head" over such issues, as the GOP clearly knows what is best for us.

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Dave Lenane

5:55 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Pete...Thank You for your concise and practical views on these topics. Lets tax all the corporations more ,so they all pack up and shift more American Jobs overseas! Seems to me thats what the Dems want. Lets make even more people dependant upon the government.

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David Nolta

10:03 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Dave Lenane,
These people packing up and moving jobs overseas--do you think those are Democrats? The CEOs of those businesses that have been outsourcing to cheaper labor--they're Democrats?? You say that's what the "Dems" want--I'd like to see your documentation for that. Here's an article in Forbes that makes it pretty (and painfully) clear that Mitt Romney is up to his ears in outsourcing--involved in it in a big and lucrative way. Lucrative for him, I mean. And that's NOT the American way.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/12/how-mitt-romney-invested-millions-in-outsourcing/

Dave Lenane

5:57 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

How come no Democrat will address the issue of unemployment being over 8% for over 40 months? And I am not referring to the distinguished Democrats that post here!

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Jon McGrath

6:55 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

A few points:
-Same rhetoric as all the other Tea Party stuff that has proliferated this site.
-So much for "Westborough Patch" if we're also reaching out to Dover for more of the same.
-I may not be the best writer in the world, but the writing is embarrassing. A rambling one-paragraph rant. If I wanted to strain my eyes I'd look at the sun.

If this is where Westborough Patch is going, we're in trouble.

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Robert Rosen

3:09 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Jon, as the editor of Dover-Sherborn Patch, where this originated, I feel the need to respond. All Patch sites give readers the opportunity to blog on topics of their choice. This piece is a blog written by a reader, not a piece written by a Patch employee, so to criticize Patch's quality of writing based on reader submissions is not fair. Also, to explain why we are on westborough, it is common for area Patch sites to share content that we think others may be interested on.

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Jon McGrath

8:37 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

I get it Robert, I'm a blogger on the Westborough Patch. Some of my posts are probably better written than others, but I would think there would be some sort of journalistic pride that would come in, here. Rambling in the comments are one thing, but for a blog post to be this poorly written is an embarrassment to the whole site, in my opinion. If you want your site to have posts that my fourth grader could have improved with some basic proofreading, that's your call.

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Robert Rosen

12:17 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

Jon, all are welcome to blog on Patch sites. We do not tell people they can't contribute a blog based on their writing ability. In fact, we openly encourage people to submit blogs even if they aren't good writers, but still want to post their ideas. I don't see where journalism pride comes in at all considering our bloggers are not the journalists. This is why we do not edit (with rare exceptions) blogs at all. We simply read them to make sure that they adhere to the terms of service. In addition, Patch isn't supposed to be simply a news site. It is built to be a place for community interaction and a way to gain information (such as our announcements and events sections).

Ron Goodenow

7:36 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

Jon, I live in Northborough, where for some time the Patch seemed to proliferate far right stuff, often by people who changed their names to aliases after been challenged, and where there is a Tea Party that is far to the right of 'fiscal responsibility' and into Manchurian candidates, birtherism, etc.. The editor there seems to have cleaned a lot of that up and now Westborough appears to be the wild west where anything goes without editorial oversight. I think they need to require real names, simply not publish rants, and put some kind of limit on how long a thread can run. Perhaps even limit the number of comments any single person can make in a thread (exceptions being for those who are directly challenged by name). But again, the goal of what I call Patchworld is clicks, clicks clicks. And to further repeat, there are examples of editors who produce balanced sites that encourage good discourse in what is really a civic space. Sometimes, as we found with the crackpots in Framingham, corporate can make the right decisions.

Oh and I do think Obama has addressed the high unemployment rate and some of the reasons (hint, hint, Tea Party faction in Congress that won't even support its majority leader) why it is stuck marginally above that 8% rate. If he lowered the rate to 5% there would be the usual boo birds saying it is really 8%. It is well below 8% in Massachusetts but you would think we are Kosovo or somewhere.

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David Nolta

10:05 pm on Saturday, September 22, 2012

These people packing up and moving jobs overseas--do you think those are Democrats? The CEOs of those businesses that have been outsourcing to cheaper labor--they're Democrats?? You say that's what the "Dems" want--I'd like to see your documentation for that. Here's an article in Forbes that makes it pretty (and painfully) clear that Mitt Romney is up to his ears in outsourcing--involved in it in a big and lucrative way. Lucrative for him, I mean. And that's NOT the American way.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/frederickallen/2012/07/12/how-mitt-romney-invested-millions-in-outsourcing/

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Max Walker

9:15 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Ron: I am a Westborough resident and agree with you that some measure of quality control is desirable on the Patch. However, I disagree with you about the need to use real names. People use assumed names for all kinds of reasons when expressing public opinions. For example to maintain a distance between their political and social selves. To require that real names have to be used in my opinion will diminish frank discourse. As long as people are being respectful and not indulging in personal attacks, I don't see the need to insist on real names.

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Ron Goodenow

11:02 am on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Max: If it works in theory it should work in practice, but sometimes it doesn't, and I think research on the subject shows increasing abuse, which is why so many sites are now requiring real names, or asking readers to request permission to not do so. My own view is that in terms of normal political discourse folks should be willing to say who they are, this making posts more thoughtful. I've been using my real name for a long time and have never suffered consequences....maybe a few more discussions with neighbors or friends. This said, most of the anonymous posts in Westborough are pretty harmless, the general cumulative effect being a big snore or hope that there was more editorial control over quality and even quantity. My main objection is when people stop using their real names so they can become abusive behind the curtain of an alias. I do find that without some control and with so many aliases a lot of people are no longer visiting Patchworld.

Linda Worthy

12:28 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Ron: I don't know what process Patchworld would use to determine if someone were using their real name. If it might be for folks to sign on thru their Facebook account as some sites do, that would leave out those of us who don't Facebook. But I imagine there could be some way for Patch to verify if they really wanted to do so.
As to your concern about people using an alias and becoming abusive, I do think Patch could do more in the way of placing an opening post on each blog encouraging people to use "Flag as inappropriate" when they feel it is warranted. Someone posted an offensive remark on another thread last night. I clicked 'Flag" and posted a note asking others to do so if they also felt the comment was offensive. The comment was gone in just a few minutes.
I think most rants get ignored. All or part of it may be read but I think people generally recognize a rant when they see one and disregard it. We all go to some movies and ignore others; watch some TV programs and bypass some others. This particular blog title has netted only a dozen comments thus far and half of them do not directly address the origina post.

I would look dimly on limiting the length of a thread or limiting the number of comments any single person can make in a thread. Those things feel like too much 'government' control. I think most threads are self-limiting. Scroll thru the list of blogs and I think you'll see that a great many get well under a couple dozen comments.

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Robert Rosen

8:09 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Linda, thank you for your comments. Correct me if I'm wrong (because I sometimes am), but in order to sign up for a Patch account you have to provide a name. Their screen name doesn't have to be their real name, but they do have to provide Patch one.

Ron Goodenow

2:27 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Thanks Linda. I have no major disagreement with you on this, or most things you write. I tend to confuse Patches with more serious news outlets which do indeed exercise some control over their comments sections. I think it would be great if there were occasional comments from editors about standards and processes.

Part of the problem is that comments are spread across so many different towns, and are right on the front page. They cannot be so easily avoided and that is a turn off for many. On talk radio you can move down the dial. TV, too. Would you favor having comments done on a town-by-town basis? If folks want to know what is being said in another town they select the town Patch and go from there. That would give the town more visibility. In any event, this is out of our hands.

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Robert Rosen

7:56 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Ron, as the editor of Westwood Patch and Dover-Sherborn Patch, let me try to answer your question about standards. In general, we give people the right and ability to write what they want when expressing their opinions in the comments section. Things that would be removed automatically by us would include foul language or things we believe are libelous to people. In this business, many things wind up being a judgement call, and sometimes it can be difficult to make a decision. We don't want to limit people's free speech, but we want to keep things appropriate. That being said, editors will often take down personal attacks. We have a terms of service that I'll post the link to that explains a bit. I'd skip down to the part that is titled "Acceptable Use," as this deals with that- http://dover.patch.com/terms. The terms of service sums it with this: “Keep it clean,” “Don’t try to trick people,” and “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.” If you ever have problems with something you see, please flag it and we do our best to get to it as quickly as possibly. Any more questions, please let me know at robert.rosen@patch.com, or feel free to contact any other editor.

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Robert Rosen

8:03 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Ron, as the editor of Westwood Patch and Dover-Sherborn Patch, I think I can try to answer your about standards when it comes to comments. I'll post the link to our terms of use, but skip over the legal stuff at the beginning and go to where the heading reads "Acceptable Use." It is summed up at the end with these three things: “Keep it clean,” “Don’t try to trick people,” and “Treat others as you’d like to be treated.”

I hope this helps. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me at robert.rosen@patch.com, or you can contact any other editor who will be happy to help.

One other note: on the town-by-town comments basis you mentioned, I'm wondering if you're talking about all stories that are posted across multiple sites, or just certain ones that could be looked at as being more hyperlocal? For example, is it okay if a story about a Presidential debate showed comments from all the towns because that would be an event affecting everyone and have interest everywhere?

Linda Worthy

5:25 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Find balance made 35 of the 112 comments (31%) on the blog entitled "SOUND OFF: Who Won the Brown-Warren Debate?" So I stand corrected, Ron. There does need to be a limit on the number of comments any single person can make in a thread. Some of Find Balance's responses to other people's comments began with: "What does that even mean?"; "You sure don't understand the issue"; "Not quite accurate"; "DH - It is irrelevant"; "What are you talking about?"; "Let's say you are right'; "Boy, more people who don't understand the issue"; "please elevate the discussion;" "you missed what the issue is"; "Patty and Ron, you miss the issue'.

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Ed Bertorelli

8:45 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

Linda--- you aren't exactly slacker in the comments department either.

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Linda Worthy

9:41 pm on Sunday, September 23, 2012

I'm not a slacker in much of anything I do. Has to do with a certain upbringing.

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Ed Bertorelli

7:52 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

Good comment Linda- we don't agree on many issues but I read your blogs and respect the work that goes into them. I've been active politically for over 4o years and the biggest enemy our country faces is a disinterested, entitled minded population that wants instant gratification.

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Margaret Estes

7:53 am on Monday, September 24, 2012

Was this article about Democrats and women's rights or writing on the Patch? Is there any kind of policing of the comment section or can we just voice off on any topic?

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